Why White Women?

by Eathan

I decided to publish this again.  I get a lot of emails asking me why white women.  Originally this appeared on this site in March 2008.  But I want to make it easier for some of my new readers to keep up. Recently a faithful reader contacted me regarding my dating preferences.  JF26 is a black woman who reads my page daily.  She was curious about the diverse readers of the site.  I’m sure she was as surprised as most of you will be, there are quite a few black women reading my site.  JF26Even though my writing is about my interactions with white women, it’s still about relationships between a man and woman.  Eventually JF26 wanted to know why I prefer dating white women and is there a specific reason why I don’t date black women.  So I will attempt to explain it the best I can.

I would first mention there are several reasons why I’ve been attracted to white women.  Personally, I grew up in a upper middle class, white community.  Of course, alot of my childhood experiences were with white counter parts.  Everything from my first kiss, holding hands, and even puberty.  Adapting to my environment became more than just a temporary thing.  My hobbies, my entertainment, music choices are all based off what my friends and peers enjoyed.  I am a direct product of my childhood.  Now I’m very diverse in my taste of music.  I enjoy classic rock, pop, techno, dance, hip-hop, rap, rock and even alternative.  I enjoy hobbies like, deep sea fBEACHishing, camping, swimming, snorkeling, and boating.

There were a few years of high school when I was exposed to other ethnicity’s.  I remember my first day of school at a all black school.  It should have been the most comfortable day, but it was the scariest day of my life.  I didn’t know what to expect.  Of course, I survived and had a great time.  But it was during the next couple years, when I began to date girls of the same race.  For some reason, I never took our relationship to the next level.  It was just a superficial relationship.  A couple of my girlfriends thought I wasn’t interested in them.  At the time, I wasn’t sure what it was.  I was dating the popular girls at school, most of them cheerleaders.

As a young adult, I moved to Dallas, Texas.  Dallas reintroduced me to the white community.  Automatically, I felt like I was home.  I began to socialize and date with white women.  We share a lot in common.  I would spend my weekends at pubs drinking beer, playing darts, pool, swimming and listening to rock music.  Everyone that was in my life enjoyed similar interests.  During the summer we spent the days at the lake on the boat and the nights hanging out.  The next few years it became apparent that I was attracted to white women more than black women.  The more I woke up next to a white woman, I found my self attracted to the smell of their hair, their smoothly shaved legs, their french manicured toes, their porcelain like skin and their free spirit.  The contrast of our skin is one of the most erotic things I can imagine.

I know plenty of beautiful black women, but I don’t find myself attracted to them in a romantic way.  I can appreciate their beauty, but it’s not for me.  Over the years, some have taken this as a insult.  I take it as the ability to make a choice and to have a preference.

Thanks for the question JF26.  Talk to you soon.

Post your comments, I’d like to hear your thoughts.

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  • Why do black women always say they struggle more than a white women?
    Women as a whole, have the same struggle.. we are (all to often) expected to straddle corporate ladder no-matter what our race.. we are single parents, (altho i personally do not have babies), and go thru the same heart break, same bs period... and as stated above you don't hear white women complain that we do not get as much help from government programs as a black women have the privilege of utilizing.. i.e. grants, student loans, housing, etc..

    I do not date white men and am tired of being judged for what I love.. God does not make mistakes and in his eyes we are all equal and cannot help what we like.. it is what it is. That's like saying a gay person choose to be that way.. Isn't being loved and loving someone all that counts? Why is it always reduced to race? Why do people care so much about what others do? It is the greatest feeling in the world to really connect with someone. Why judge so much? If you don't want to be judged why would you do it to someone else? It only perpetuates racism. Why can't Americans move forward to a new, brighter day? And embrace our differences, after all our differences are what makes us ALL so beautiful...
  • I don't understand judging either.. It amazes me.
  • "The more I woke up next to a white woman, I found my self attracted to the smell of their hair, their smoothly shaved legs, their french manicured toes, their porcelain like skin and their free spirit. The contrast of our skin is one of the most erotic things I can imagine."

    Wow, seems like slavery, racism and 'colorism' have really done a number on 'us'.

    With the exception of "porcelain skin", I don't see how the above attributes are exclusive to white women.

    Just curious.

    Do the women in your family not share a similar description?
    Will/Do you refuse to have a "black" child as well?
    Will you teach your children to exclusively outside of their race?
    How do you parents feel about your choice?

    Date who you want. The world is yours. I'm open to dating men from all walks of life, color and creed. But I think there are psychological reasons, outside of environment and commonality for your choosing to date white women, exclusively.

    Or, am I misunderstanding your post?
  • I don't have a "black" child. I'm not having any more children at all..so it's not a issue. My children can/will date whom ever they choose. My family is diverse. I have many different races in my family.

    I date who I'm attracted to.. and that's all that really matters to me.

    FYI.. why would i care what my family feels about my choice? I'm a grown man... I make my own decisions based on my own likes or dislikes. Why would someone date based off of what their family thinks?
  • Hey, just wanted to leave a comment and test your new commentluv 2.0. Ha, pretty cool. Good post btw, lots of comments on this one.

    <abbr>Lances last blog post..Natalie Dylan on CNN; She Doesn?t Look Like A Virgin</abbr>
  • Yeah..I try to stay updated on new stuff. This one is getting lots of comments.. it's been crazy
  • You're a business man, with a well thought out marketing strategy. As a woman of advertising I know what that entails...half truths and small print.

    Either way, I think that was a great post, clearly or i wouldn't have written anything. I try to spend as little time as possible on intelligent conversations outside of my free time.

    Write another one very soon, I'm intrigued.

    <abbr>Dope Fiends last blog post..Movie Star</abbr>
  • Thanks for the compliment. Trust me when I tell you everything on IDW is true. But as we all know there is always 3 sides to every story.

    Yours, Mine, and the truth. IDW is just my side of the story. Doesn't make it 1/2 truth, just makes it my prospective.
  • "My style of writing is to allow the reader to your own interpretation."

    Well clearly your marketing strategies are working because from the blog name
    I DATE WHITE

    to your choice of wording

    ?I?m sure she was as surprised as most of you will be, there are quite a few black women reading my site.?

    "I remember my first day of school at a all black school. It should have been the most comfortable day, but it was the scariest day of my life...I survived?

    "Dallas reintroduced me to the white community. Automatically, I felt like I was home."

    "The contrast of our skin is one of the most erotic things I can imagine."

    From your very well marketed post, on your catchy and shocking site, you deliberately led me to the image of a confused black male. Now I'll admit this is probably the most I've written on someone else's blog, so yes you achieved your purpose, to get more dialog, but if it's true what you say, then, I have been deceived, and this whole site is based on half truths?

    <abbr>Dope Fiends last blog post..Movie Star</abbr>
  • lol you made me laugh.

    Once again I have to direct you to my statement about teens. I moved to Dallas when I was 17. At the time of moving to Dallas that was my thoughts and feelings.

    I'm glad you've read and commented as much as you have.

    In regards to me deceiving you, I don't think that is accurate. All of the facts are written for everyone to see. All the pieces of the puzzle are here. I leave it up to everyone to find the pieces. I can't give you all the answers, but I will give you all the information you need to put it all together. It takes a little extra effort, but I'm happy to explain or clearify if asked to do so.
  • Sorry, Im spelling your name wrong. Seriously apologise, that's rude!
    Eathan..Ive got it stored.

    <abbr>Dope Fiends last blog post..Movie Star</abbr>
  • See now belladona first of all, grammar is an essential part of the English language, especially if you want to be taken seriously. In your next post, press the caps button, no long ting.

    Now I am definitely not knocking Ethan for dating outside of his race, But there are a few things that he has stated that indicate he is a black man uncomfortable in his own skin.

    First of all, HIS BLOG is called "I DATE WHITE"! Is this statement meant to generate some gold stars? It indicates a need for recognition for dating white...as if its something amazing. Dating is dating, why not call the blog I DATE?
    Further strengthening my suspicions about Ethans insecurities...

    "I?m sure she was as surprised as most of you will be, there are quite a few black women reading my site."

    Why should it be a surprise that black women read your site...what just because you date white your site is EXCLUSIVELY for whites? I'm not surpised, blogging is blogging.

    "I remember my first day of school at a all black school. It should have been the most comfortable day, but it was the scariest day of my life." Ethan states his very self that he was afraid of people who had the same colour skin as him...If that's not uncomfortable in your own skin then I don't know what is. Ethen then goes on to say he "SURVIVED". Umm, ok?

    Now I'm all for interracial relationships, mixed heritage, embracing the cultures of others, but I think if a person is afraid of who they are and where they come from, and blatantly try to run away from that by trying to assimilate themselves fully into a whole nother culture not "temporarily' but permanently in attempt to escape that identity, then yes. They are uncomfortable with themselves.

    <abbr>Dope Fiends last blog post..Movie Star</abbr>
  • Thanks for the comments. Just to clear the record.. I've said this months ago on this site.. but I know everyone hasn't been reading since the very start.

    ** The name of my site is for MARKETING purposes only**
    (marketing genius, if i say so myself) ;)

    It's catchy, shocking, and it makes a "dating" site stand out from all of the other single guy dating sites.

    Also.. This was a repost of something from 6 months ago. At that time, I was getting hate mail from black women regarding this site. Since then, it has changed. People see past the IR theme and see it for what it is, a personal blog site. Of course I talk about IR topics because of my dating choices and my children.

    This black man is very comfortable in his skin. The topics that I choose to discuss on this site is to encourage dialog and discussion. (another marketing strategy)

    And like most teens, I had a few uncomfortable moments. Why? Because teens are inexperienced in life. As much as I would like to say I was above average, I wasn't in some ways.

    My style of writing is to allow the reader to your own interpretation. That also encourages more dialog. But sense I've given you the direct answer..that should clear up any confusion for you. ;)
  • zarinastar
    has anyone ever thought to think...why ask why? attraction , real attraction isnt thought about its just there. not much science and questions just something that you enjoy. im sure if you were blindfolded and have 3 women black white or latina in front of you, your other senses would guide you to what you are ATTRACTED to. sight is not the only factor in love relationships and dating. date who u will because in the end what makes you happy is what you want to leave in memory with. right? i dunno just my view.
  • Blindfold huh? You got a couple friends to line up in front of me? I'm ready to try your theory. :D
  • OH Y GOD..THIS IS LIKE CRAZY..NOW I HEAR WHEN WE DATE OUT OF OUR RACE WE ARE INSULTING OUR RACE AND NOT PROUD OF OUR HOE AND NOT FEEL COMFY AROUND OUR RACE..U...HOW FAR DO SE HAVE TO GO TO TO JUSTIFY THEIR FEELING AND THE WAY THEY FEEL BECAUSE THEY DONT ACCEPT INTERRACIAL DATING..WHAT OTHER EXCUSE...SINCE DOING THE MOVIE I HAVE HEARD IT ALL..FRO BLACK WOMAN STATING, "WHEN WHITE WOMAN HAVE SEX W THE BLACK MAN WHAT COLOR VIBRATOR DO WE USE.."..LOMA..WHAT A FRIGIN JOKE..TO THE WHITE MAN THAT SAYS WE ARE INSECURE THAT'S WHY WE DATE OUR OF OUR RACE..

    MATTER WHAT REASONS U ALL HAVE FOR DATING INTERRACIALLY..THE BOTTOM LINE, ITS UR OPINION, AND U WILL GO TO ANY LENGTHS TO TRY TO PROVE UR REASONING IS CORRECT INSTEAD OF JUST ACCEPTING THAT PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE WE ALL BLEED RED, AND WE CAN TEACH OUR CHILDREN ANY CULTURES AS WELL..HELL, MY OLDEST WENT TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL W SPANISH, WHITE AND BLACK, SPEAKING DIFFERENT LANGUAGES NEVER KNOWING COLOR INSTEAD OF BEING SOME DUMB LIL WHITE BOY WALKING BY A PERSON OF COLOR ASKING HIS MOMMY , WHY ARE THEY A DIFFERENT COLOR..DUH HELLO..WAKE UP WE DO IT CAUSE WE CAN WE DO IT CAUSE WE ARE CHOOSING TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO BOTTON LINE..


    I KNOW THAT SOME OF SOCIETY WILL NEVER CHANGE THEIR RASONINGS AND BEHAVIOR, BUT, BUT IF U DONT AGREE ITS ALL GOOD, IF U DO THATS A BEAUTIFUL THING..U ARE ENTITLED TO UR OPINION, BUT DONT PLEASE DONT TRASH PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR CHOICE...I AM VERY COMFY AROUND MY RACE, BUT I AM SO VERY AT HOME WITH THE BLACK CULTRUE AS WELL..I DATED INTERRACIALLY SINCE I WAS 14..



    PART OF MY WEBSITE-



    I am a very proud mother of two grown adult men who are my life, my world, my blood. The most respectful, secure, and emotionally stable men that god could give to anyone. They are my lifeline, my reason for living, my reason for life...

    So, by now, my story has reached many and comments I have received have been so overwhelming, thus ever complimenting me on my venture and supporting my beliefs that we are all one.. I was never raised hearing, "stick to your own kind", but heard different comments from people that were dark tanned, lol, growing up on a beach as I did and thought to myself that these old people are rude and mean. Then when I had my first interracial experience, all hell broke lose. My dad was crazed, pulled the phones out of the walls, got punished for dating a black man, lol... how dam silly. My friends, my family, the insults, the comments, the stares and the names, so horrific, so wrong, so not nice. I was called the most horrendous, vicious, and insulting things ever imagined. The pain, the discomfort, the awkwardness, and the unsettled feeling it made me feel I honestly didn't know why people were reacting in such a hurtful , and hatred way and why they would want to try and change my feelings. All I knew, I was talking to someone with darker skin than me!! And!! What is so darn terrible about that??? But one thing I never did was hide! NO MATTER WHAT!!! I am a child of god, we are all the same, we all bleed red. So to this day, I continue to stand and walk tall and stay as positive as I can be!

    Today, as I have matured and learned about self love. I realize that so many are still so ignorant and I feel partly its because of some fears that they themselves have regarding who they are and what is acceptable. The ignorance and arrogance of others make me a stronger person. The most hated and ignorant question I get a lot is how long have you been into black men? Into black men, lol, what does that mean? I wish I could be the one to change the world, but unfortunately, I can't... I, still in 2007 get smart remarks where I go and that's ok, it doesn't affect me, never has and never will. The day that "any one" individual can walk down the street without any type of a snide or an insulting remark would be a blessing in disguise. Just as long as you hold your head up high and continue to love yourself for who you are that in itself is a blessing and will get you through life feeling comfortable in your own skin, and living a happy life!

    I just wanted to say thank you to all who have entered into my life, my world, who have supported me and never disrespected my choice and decision in life. My sons Chrsitopher and Nicholas, for loving me for who I am, and seeing no color, my ex-husband Robert who has always supported me no mattter what, for loving me and being the best dad ever, my parents that came along way with me, daddy I so love you to pieces, rest in peace mom, miss you to infinity, my sister Camille, who unfortunately we lost her at the age of 36 to a cruel life, and who's children, my niece and nephew Cole and Jeanna helped me design these t shirts, my brother Michael, and sister Karla thank you, and you, all of my friends..xoxoxo.....God Bless...


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  • See now me, I'm all for the interracial relationships, hell, I'm probably more Asian than black but I have to admit that you saying you don't find black women attractive in a romantic way and how the way porcelain skin fascinates you and draws to the allure of a white woman, sounds to me like a sort of self hatred. Its like you have grown up in a world where you were different to the rest, and I'm not talking about your musical tastes, anyone who says rock/alternative/electronic is for white people is small minded. Im talking about you finding a sense of acceptance, not with who you are and who you were born as, but with an entirely different ethnicity Only. You felt uncomfortable where you should have felt the most at home, and that's saying something.

    You say you were brought up in a middle class white neighbourhood. As was I, Hell I went to school with some of the richest white people in London, including the prime ministers daughter. And as an English person, we don't get taught much about our culture here, Black history month doesn't cause a storm like it does in the UK. Most of my best friends are oriental, I grew up with them and around their culture, I spent the fist 8 years of my life in a Hispanic household, and speaking Spanish, I went to nursery school, primary school/ and high school with primarily white people, and to this day still am being educated in a University where I am the minority, and I am treated as such. But I still love my black men, I still identify as from the mother land. I still feel at home, and at one with my people more than any other race/ ethnicity.

    See now me, I have no problem with you having a single preference for white women, that's you, I say go ahead make some curly haired babies. But I do find it strange, and pitiful that you don't feel at home with your own people, you don't seem to feel at home in your own skin. You're denying yourself a part if who you are.

    Question, when you have children, if you plan to, what do you have to offer them when it comes to learning about their culture and self-image? What of the African/ African-American culture do you love so dearly that you could also share it with your children? Music is not a valid answer.

    Because like it or not, white people still see you as black, and any child you may have with your white counterpart...will also be seen as black.

    xoxo
  • Amers
    Eathan,

    I do agree that attraction isn't a choice but can sometimes be developed. My situation is a bit different in that I specifically am attracted to older men. Not rich benefactors, but guys who were older and seemingly more "manly" to me. It stated with childhood crushes on my teenage swimming teacher and Bob Vila! (Please don't throw tomatoes!)

    My "adult" experiences weren't rewarding until I was involved with someone older. My girlfriends all drool over the baby face skater boys and well within their rights. But I trip over the skater guys to get to the mellow 30/40 something with smile lines around his eyes and threads of grey in his dark hair. I love watching how older men move more slowly but with purpose.

    Beyond physical stuff, I have more in common with older people in general. At 27 I am a homeowner, plowing into my career and working on more schooling. Lotta guys my age sorta think I should just chill out.
    I just have more in common with the 30/40 something people and there's similar interests and energy level.

    No one ever told me to want this. It just is who I am from a profound internal place. It's knowing what feels like home to you. Everyone has unique instincts and it would behoove us to listen to them.
  • BELLADONNA
    HOW ARE YOU..GREAT READING..
    I ALSO ENJOYED THE COMMENTS FROM OTHERS..FUNNY HOW THE BLACK WOMAN ARE ALWYS SO CURIOUS AS TO WHY BLACK MEN DATE OUT OF THEIR RACE..WELL TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST..ITS NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS BUT YOUR OWN..FOR YRS AND YRS..I DATED BLACK MEN, EXCLUSIVELY, AND ALL THE TIME I GOT FROM JUST WHITE ME, WHY, SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS NATURALLY WERE CRUEL AND DIRTY..SO THEN I JUST SAID.."WHY DO I DO IT, BECAUSE I CAN"..THAT SHUT THEM UP..I GET TIRED OF THE SHY;S THE HOW CAN U AND SO ON..IT IS MY PREFERENCE, MY DECISION..DOESNT MEAN I HATE THE WHITE MAN..JUST ROMANTICALLY AND PHYSICALLY I AM NOT =ATTRATED AT ALL...

    YOU KNOW I CAN GO ON AND ON..I WAS IN THE MOVIE ON HBO, INTERRACIAL DATING IN AMERICA..BEEN ON THE MORNING SHOW W MIKE AND JULIET...ITS GETTING OLD NOW, BUT I STILL GET THE STARES THE LOOKS, BUT IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER...I DONT GET THE DRAMA ANYMORE..I LEARNED THAT PEOPLES OPINIONS ARE JUST WHAT THEY ARE THEIR OPINIONS..AND TO ME, ITS OK TO HAVE UR OPINION, BUT DONT JUDGE ME FOR THAT..JUST TRY TO BE HAPPY WHICH MANY CANNOT..THANKS DARLING
  • Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hope ya come back to comment more.
  • I meant to say this Love thing is an idea that black men and WHITE women love to adopt.

    Eathan, I've already got plans tonight but I'd love to get "verbal" with you another time, LOL.
  • ahhh.. plans huh. Well you can always listen to the podcast of the show..
  • Jenn,

    I kind of see you point. This is why my black daughter will be encouraged to follow her heart and my black son will be encouraged to make sure that his heart follows his race. Plain and simple.

    Are you ready for this one? I WOULD date outside of my race if I felt so inclined to do so. However I'm strongly attracted to the black man and all his complexities. I don't want to be cured (horrible term I know, but I couldn't figure how else to express myself). If I go into the forest I hope it's all black men there. Why is it though, that my choices for quality black men who are equally as attracted to me are so limited? When I say me, I'm thinking of all of my other like-minded sisters as well. I have only very rarely (I mean the number of times is negligible) been approached by men outside of my race, so obviously this love idea Eathan speaks of doesn't transcend minds of all races. However, it is and idea that black men and black women love to adopt.

    Like I told my best friend back in the early 90s. If you loved all races, then why do you seem to prefer white men? She couldn't answer me.
  • Jenn
    Hey RealHustla, I think thats a great thing to teach your daughter and son. And I can understand attraction, that is something that you simply can't deny down to your core. I say that you should go with your heart but I also think you have to be logical and proactive. If you are holding out for something that even you know is difficult and unlikely then you can't be mad/sad about your singleness because you are essentially blocking your own blessings and you have avenues that you could take for happiness that you're not taking. I think a lot of women that share your sentiments realize after its too late that it would have been better to have a good man and good love rather than holding out for a specific good man and a specific kind of love. I will say on a personal note that I have always been open to all races of men from childhood I guess but even if I hadn't been, knowing the situation is so stacked against me within my own race in the way that you've put it (that "my choices for quality black men who are equally as attracted to me are so limited") I would definitely have opened up my options. What can I say, I'm practical lol.

    As far as you never being approached by men of other races, well, maybe you don't believe in this kind of stuff but I feel that people give off very distinct and tangible vibes. If you already have it in your head that you are completely closed off to men of other races, your body language SHOWS IT, and men will react to it. There are subtle subconscious cues we give off that we don't even realize that the opposite sex picks up on. So I don't disagree with Eathan at all about his view of love, there will always be white women that don't like Black men and vice versa, and there are going to be white men that don't like Black women and vice versa but there will always be those that do. For your last question, if you asked ME that I could answer it lol. Personally I love all races always have always will but I just happen to like non-Black men physically and I tend have more in common with them.
  • Ya know, I can't argue with this opinion, so I won't. Good discussion. Thanks for letting me state my opinions.
  • Both of you should tune into my blogtalkradio show tonight. The topic is "Why Black Men Date White Women"

    You can call in with your thoughts on the air.:D
  • Jenn, Your out the boat. Not talking about you. But I can't list all the names of the women who feel the way I do. I mainly speak for myself, but I KNOW that I'm speaking for someone else too. I am not a victim. I'm and observer. The things God has done for me as an individual are too numerous to count, so you too are generalizing and assuming I have a weak relationship with God (shame on you!). So let me clarify. I'm speaking for myself, my cousins, my sisterfriends, those of us who consult one another about this issue from time to time. The issue does not consume my life I just have strong opinions about it. It's funny, the white father of all my god children feels the same way about black women as the black man on this blog feels about white women. I imagine it's similar to how my white Grand dad felt about my black grandmother.

    Eathan, no, you're not restricted to who you can love. I respect that. But what I do observe is that in nearly every culture in the world, men take care of the women in their same race. Many African American men feel no obligation to make sure that their women are a necessity to continue their existence. Affirmative action, no. Pride, and duty, yes. Sometimes you ghotta look beyond the trees to the forest.
  • Jenn
    Sorry I didn't mean to seem that I was assuming anything about your spirituality! I have to admit I often get sideways glances from Black males and some Black females for my interracial relationship and it puts me on defense once I hear something from someone who MIGHT have a problem with it. What I am really saying is that I don't think that its something that you should concern yourself with or even hold strong opinions about. You're grown and going to do whatever you want obviously, but thats just my opinion. Its your opinion that Black men are not concerned about taking care of Black women. In my opinion pining about the issue only makes them feel even less obligated to do so. After all, if you are openly concerning yourself with their options and not exploring your own they'll get it in their head that you'll be there no matter how little concern they have for you or that you are taken care of.

    In essence, you, and your girlfriends and cousins are contributing to the problem. A person WILL overlook you and mistreat you if you make it clear that you're going to be concerned about it, but you're never going to do anything for yourself to lessen that struggle besides plea with them to take care of you. Just my opinion though, I'm sure you don't agree!
  • Here's my thoughts about any and all that are 'crushed', 'bothered' or viewing it as a 'struggle'... It's a man thing. It's a woman thing. It's a love thing. If you remain concerned about being included, you have already excluded yourself. Include your self in the 'American' culture.

    As a culture America is a melting pot. That means our obligation is to our fellow Americans. (by your line of reasoning) My obligation is to the women of MY generation, not the memory of the ones from the last 2+ generations. I am a man that dates outside of my ethnic race. It's 2008.. you should be happy that you have choices to date whom ever you choose. You should be happy that a 'man' is interesting in you. And you should be happy that your man can be any color you choose.

    I'm already in the forest..that's why I'm the one tell you it's safe in the woods at night. ;)
  • Pay attention. That list was to expand on the following comments that were made earlier.

    "You like what/who you like and us single black women will have to deal with it the way we?ve dealt with the rest of our struggles. Amazingly."

    "And the struggles? Don?t you have the same struggles as the rest of American?s dealing with this economy?"

    I doubt the struggles in that list are shared with all of society.

    Another struggle, many men in our race don't love black women enough to want to spend the rest of their lives with them. Even though we claim to respect your choice, this is also a struggle.
  • Jenn
    Please speak for yourself and not every Black woman. "We" don't do anything. Hell I don't even date Black men, especially not American Black men (not that there's anything wrong with them, just not attracted) nor do I know one single Black woman who has a lot going for her that feels they have to "struggle" about who Black men are dating (doesn't even make sense to me). You need to let go and let God honey. You're making yourself miserable and a victim. No group of men is better than another and its high time women like you stopped depending on one race of men to give you unflinching love when they're not entitled to give it and are repeatedly showing you they won't even if they were! Secondly you have got to stop dragging every Black women into the same boat with you. I don't care and most Black women don't. Its 2008. If YOU have an issue, say you do. Don't put me in that boat though because I'm happy for this man if he's happy and I'm happy for me and my white fiance! There's nothing wrong with interracial relationships.
  • BELLADONNA
    this is one of the best postings i have read..thank you
  • I was paying attention.. that was a rhetorical question. lol

    The fact you're missing is as a man, I'm not required or restricted to love any woman except on the merits that I find to be compatible for me. That merit can/is based off physical appearance, common interest, core values, sex appeal,charactor and many other factors too many to list.

    The biggest problem is that because of the affirmative action dating style you're requesting doesn't exist for me. I'm not required to "interview" a designated number of women of a certain race, based on my own ethnicity.
    The true sense of what I'm telling you is in the following link. It's a man thing..not a race thing.. sometimes you've gotta look beyond the tree to see the forest.


    http://www.verysmartbrothas.com/the-first-perfunctory-race-specific-entry/
  • Jenn
    I don't agree that its a man thing either. Unless you are dating white men which I know you're not lol. There are women and men who choose to date out and it can happen without some hidden agenda or resentment. Maybe the woman is seeing something in your posts that I don't see, I dunno, but even if you do have some pent up issues with the women of your own race, who cares? No offense to you but you're just some dude with a blog. And everyone is going to live their life regardless. So why make it a big deal?
  • Personally, I don't see the big deal. I've dated women of all races. I will admit it.
    There are too many people on this earth to be focused on what some one thinks they are missing out on. ;)
  • Struggles of Single Black Woman in Society and the Work Place:

    Dealing with Racism Married to Sexism - A double dose of perceptions about what a black woman can NOT do. Having to prove yourself more than any other demographic despite the fact that you may have one or several degrees and more experience.

    Disproving Stereotypes - About what a black woman wants to do. I.e., no we don't want to talk on the phone all day. No, I do not want to lay up on my ass all day. No I do not want something for nothing.

    Fighting Ignorance - We are indeed highly intelligent and prefer not to be spoken to like pre-shcoolers.

    Proving Her Trustworthyness - Before the economy got so sour it was still not easy for a single black woman to get a loan or get in contractual agreements like leases, etc. in order to get the things she needs for her and her family like transportation and shelter.

    Negative Preceptions - About the black woman's ability to communicate, i.e.: I'm not an angry black woman, I'm a black woman who's angry because I don't think you dealt with my child the right way. Hear my words, not my expressions and tones!

    Virtual Love - No, not the kind on the internet, silly. When black men SAY they love black women but won't prove it with their actions.

    Lack of Self Love - Since you're black, I'm going to assume you know about the self mutilation black women go through to blend in (if you don't I'd be happy to explain). I.e. straightening their hair. Because black men love straight hair. Some women even dye it blonde.

    This is just a short list of some of the struggles I've experienced that have nothing to do with how the economy is doing.
  • ok.. and what does that have to do with my choice to date outside of my race? Sounds like that is for a therapy site..
  • BELLADONNA
    why is this going on the way it is..what does the black woman struggles have to do with dating other races...duh..
    i struggled raising my oldest alone, that was a struggle..did i get upset when some of the black , spanish race got more help than i..um, o i didnt..it just made me strong to depend on me and not want pity from others because i have to struggle, i have to pay the bills i have to deal with silly ass comments from other races because i choose to date interracially

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  • Actually, before the state of the economy became so clear, my struggles were there, so no.

    I don't mind continuing this discussion but will only do so with your permission. It's not my intent to try to change you, but just to provide a little more enlightenment into my perspective if you're interested or if you think your readers may be interested.

    I don't want you to think that my goal is to attack you, but nevertheless, this discussion has the potential to get heated, and this is your blog and I'm not into "blog bashing"(for lack of a better term).
  • haha... I'm always open to discussion.. comment away. I'll get you the think that was over at vsb .. because that is also apart of what I as a man feels and thinks. While I'm doing that.. comment freely.
  • I'm not buying it. If you had started out in the all black community and then migrated to the white one later on and then went back to the black community you would have stated this as you reasoning for preferring white women. It you were into playing dominoes, strictly hip hop and gospel, only ate soul food and watched black-sploitation movies, you would have found a white woman to enjoy it all with you.

    The only part about this I believe is when you say...

    "The more I woke up next to a white woman, I found my self attracted to the smell of their hair, their smoothly shaved legs, their french manicured toes, their porcelain like skin and their free spirit. The contrast of our skin is one of the most erotic things I can imagine."

    Truth is, you don't know why you like white women, cause most black women I know have all these things except the porcelain like skin.

    This website is just a way to justify your guilt. I'm a first time reader and I'm willing to step out there and make this very bold comment without even reading any other posts.

    You like what/who you like and us single black women will have to deal with it the way we've dealt with the rest of our struggles. Amazingly.

    Peace
  • I'm glad you're here to comment. The fact is, I have stated my reasons and my feelings. The only problem with your comments is it isn't my thoughts or feelings. You seem like you're educated and well spoken, so when I tell you that 4+2=6 and you argue that the answer is 10, who is wrong? This situation isn't as clearly as the math you took in college. It's based off my life experiences, likes, dislikes, preferences and such. This gray area isn't so plain to see unless you are standing in my shoes.

    I will say, that you can believe anything that you want. The most important thing I can sense from your comment is your that you don't have a open mind to attempt to see things from a different perspective. I would hope you read the site and allow your mind to experience it.

    And the struggles? Don't you have the same struggles as the rest of American's dealing with this economy?

    I'm about love.. not hatred..
  • BELLADONNA
    again, all the nasty misunderstandings come from the black woman..dam dam dam
  • Shane
    Why not white women ?
  • Jenn
    I'm a Black woman and I guess I'm just like you. Except I didn't really grow up in a white area (my neighborhoods have always been fairly mixed) but I just find I have more in common with white men, or non-Black men rather. Not that I don't have anything in common with Black people, in fact some of my closest friends are other Black women and some Black men. Its just that when it comes to dating and relationships, Black men just aren't attractive LIKE THAT to me physically and I have more in common with other men personality-wise. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Some people don't understand our experiences but there is nothing you can do about that. Just do what makes you happy.
  • I agree.. if it makes ya happy go for it. I make no excuses for my attraction..I just explain the way I see it. :D
  • Amanda
    I've been dating only black men exclusively for almost a year and a half now. I won't say that it is my preference... but I haven't run into any white guys (or others) that have caught my eye. Perhaps it's because of the places I hang out (ie, the gym, sports bars)... or perhaps it's because they are the ones that actually come up to me or respond to me.

    Perhaps it's my booty... I don't know :o)

    One of the most erotic things for me, though... is seeing the contrasting skin color. I can't explain it. It is just so damn erotic. We can just be chillin' on the couch watching tv... holding hands... and if I happen to look down at our fingers entwined, it turns me on.

    Or, perhaps I'm just a horny little devil.

    Who really knows at this point? LOL
  • HAHA.. we know you're always horny. I will admit the color contrast is a sexy thing.
  • Well I happen to be one of your black female readers as well and I've been wondering the same thing. It's funny I enjoy doing activites that my culture typically isn't known for enjoying as well. I can say I'm truly diverse and not because I was raised that way or forced by my surroundings. Being diverse is a choice in my opinion. I never felt obgligated to go after another race to find someone to enjoy the same activites as I do but I will admit it is hard finding a black man that does like the same things as I.

    Not that an explanation was required,I do appreciate you clearing that up for me. I was wondering if you had some really bad experiences with black women or something. Oh well have a great week!

    Go B.
  • I'm glad I was able to clear it up for ya.. It's one of those things that make me love this diverse world I live in. :)
  • Dawn
    Thank you Eathan for sharing,
    I do not have an attraction to men because of their skin, its more of how I feel when I am whith them. I can get some things come from your youth, but its still about how you feel.
  • y/w I'll always share. It's just who I am. ;)
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